In an electrifying episode of his podcast, Joe Rogan found himself grappling with claims from investigative journalist Michael Shellenberger that the U.S. military may possess “alien anti-gravity technology.” Shellenberger, who has spoken with multiple insiders, revealed that sources claim “direct evidence” of a secret Pentagon program dedicated to retrieving and reverse-engineering alien spacecraft—efforts allegedly dating back to the 1947 Roswell crash. These programs, shrouded in secrecy for decades, reportedly aim to replicate the advanced propulsion systems of extraterrestrial technology, suggesting a reality far stranger than anyone could imagine.
Rogan voiced visible shock and apprehension over Shellenberger’s revelations, warning that such a truth could destabilize society. “Society collapses because we’re faced with [the] illusion that anyone of the human race is in control,” Rogan speculated, fearing that confirmation of extraterrestrial technology would dissolve traditional structures of power. His concerns weren’t unfounded. The whistleblower claims reflect assertions made by former Pentagon official Luis Elizondo, who has reported seeing classified footage of UFOs displaying flight dynamics that defy current scientific understanding, such as the “Gimbal” UFO, captured by Navy pilots in 2015. In his memoir, Elizondo describes the craft as “clearly an antigravity device,” noting its heat signature, lack of visible propulsion, and non-aerodynamic maneuvers as clear signs of technology beyond Earth’s capabilities.
Shellenberger’s sources, who reportedly hold “direct evidence” but remain cautious about going public, are calling for stronger whistleblower protections. The journalist emphasized that these insiders wish to speak openly without fear of retaliation, especially given the magnitude of the information they hold. He referenced an alleged 20-page classified report, “Immaculate Constellation,” which details U.S. efforts to quarantine top-level UFO evidence, including video footage, witness testimony, and sensor data, reportedly shielded from public view and Congressional oversight since its inception in 2017.
This isn’t the first time high-ranking officials have raised alarms about hidden UFO programs. Ex-intelligence officer David Grusch testified before Congress last year, accusing military contractors of concealing crash-retrieved UFOs and even non-human “biological remains.” In one chilling account, Grusch described a UFO recovery where witnesses experienced time distortion, entering the craft for minutes only to exit and discover hours had passed. Grusch’s testimony, along with those of Elizondo and Shellenberger’s anonymous sources, paints a picture of clandestine programs dedicated to controlling information on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) without legislative approval or transparency.
Congressional leaders are responding to these revelations, with some calling for robust, federally mandated whistleblower protections to shed light on what they see as a systematic cover-up. In fact, lawmakers, including Senator Chuck Schumer, co-sponsored a bill aiming to form an independent review board to grant immunity to key witnesses involved in these programs. “We got ripped off,” said Representative Tim Burchett, frustrated by the omission of significant UFO disclosures from recent legislation. The watered-down 2024 amendment, they argue, continues to allow agencies to keep these secrets in the dark.
As rumors swirl, Rogan and Shellenberger anticipate more insider testimonies during November’s Congressional hearings. Shellenberger warned that the longer these secrets remain hidden, the more volatile the consequences could become if the truth is unleashed without public preparation. Rogan, for his part, remains both fascinated and wary, grappling with the implications of a world where anti-gravity technology is real, and humanity may not be alone.